LA LEY vs. LA LEY, Enfrentando el Error – Parte 3

¹⁷But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, let one tittle of the law be frustrated. —LUKE 16:17

LAWDEBATESTUDY PART [3]

[9:05 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
You see you just like to ask more you don't answer

[9:05 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Did heaven and earth pass?

If you keep holding on to your mistake, you will lose yourself.

⁴Everyone who commits sin also breaks the law; for sin is a violation of the law. —1 JOHN 3:4

[9:06 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
I'm not going to answer you anymore, you never wanted to answer, my question.

[9:06 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
You're going to lose. You should have gone with Luisito Toro…

[9:06 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
I will not answer you anymore end of the Debate

[9:06 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Tell me, What parish do you congregate in?

[9:06 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
You are not reasonable

[9:07 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier

The Day of Resurrection: The New Creation

2174 Jesus rose from the dead “on the first day of the week” (Mt 28:1; Mk 16:2; Lk 24:1; Jn 20:1). As it is the “first day”, The day of Christ's Resurrection remembers the first creation. As it is the “eighth day,” which follows Saturday (cf Mc 16, 1; Mt 28, 1), It means the new creation inaugurated with the resurrection of Christ. For Christians it became the first of all days, the first of all festivals, the day of the Lord (Hè kyriakè hèmera, dies dominica), on Sunday:"

"We all get together the day of the sun because it is the first day [after the Jewish Sabbath,[/su_highlight] but also the first day], on which God, bringing matter out of darkness, created the world; that same day, Jesus Christ… —CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, Art. 2174 ^[4]The Day of Resurrection: the New Creation
[LINK, The Vatican]

[9:07 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
You are a worshiper of the sun god.

[9:07 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
No

[9:07 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Yeah!

I'm okay with that. I've already done my job.

[9:07 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
No, you don't answer my question.

[9:08 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
If I can't tolerate the light, you can kick me out of the group. I'm glad to go. I already fulfilled God.

[9:08 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Matthew 12:5

[EDITION] Jose Luis Javier
Should you expand that text a little more. Let me help you-

⁵Or have you not read in the law, how on the Sabbath the priests in the temple profane the Sabbath, and are blameless?
⁶Pues os digo que uno mayor que el templo está aquí.
⁷And if you knew what it means: I want mercy, and not sacrifice, you would not condemn the innocent;
⁸for the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath. —MATHEW 12:5-8

[9:08 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
What does bird say? Explain to me

[9:08 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Did you so soon forget the lesson of mercy I gave you?

²³Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and you leave the most important part of the law: justice, mercy and faith. This was necessary to do, without stopping doing that —MATHEW 23:23

THOSE WHO LIVE IN THE FLESH

⁵For those who are of the flesh think about the things of the flesh; but those who are of the Spirit, in the things of the Spirit.
⁶Because to be concerned with the flesh is death, but to be concerned with the Spirit is life and peace.
⁷Because the counsels of the flesh are enmity against God; because they are not subject to the law of God, nor can they. —ROMANS 8:5-7

[9:08 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Explain to me, EXPLAIN TO ME. That's Pablo, y él dice que tú vives en la carne por no guadar la ley, y que de esa manera no tienes manera de agradar a Dios.

[9:09 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
What does Matthew 12:5 talk about?

[EDITION] Jose Luis Javier

²³Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and you leave the most important thing in the law: justice, THE MERCY and faith. This was necessary to do, without stopping doing that —MATHEW 23:23

¹²For all who have sinned without law, Without law they will also perish; and all who have sinned under the law, by the law they will be judged;
¹³because it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law will be justified. —ROMANS 2:12-13

[9:10 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
The priests considered the Sabbath not sacred and no one judges them.

[EDITION] Jose Luis Javier
That statement is false. Jesus is talking about mercy. There was a work that also needed to be done on the Sabbath. An example of this was circumcision of boys on the eighth day of birth (ACTS 7:8), y hacer el bien al necesitado . Sí el octavo día caía en un Sábado, había que hacerlo, pues esto también era orden de Dios. "Misericordia quiero y no sacrificio."

Accuérdate que "lo más importante de la ley eran la fe, la misericordia, y la justica", algo que los fariseos y sacerdotes de entonces no cumplían. Por eso Jesús no vino a violar la ley sino a cumplirla. O sea, a enseñarnos como cumplirla, pues se habían olvidado de la justicia, la fe y—particularmente,

³Jesus entered the synagogue again; and there was a man there whose hand was withered. ²And they watched him to see if he would heal him on the Sabbath day, so that they could accuse him.
³Then he said to the man who had the withered hand, “Get up and stand in the middle.”
⁴And he told them: Is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good? [MERCY], or do wrong; save the life [MERCY], or remove it? But they were silent [LACK OFMERCY].
⁵Then looking around angrily [FOR ITS LACK OF MERCY], saddened by the hardness of their hearts [LACK OF MERCY], He said to the man: Stretch out your hand. And he stretched it out, and his hand was restored whole. [MERCY].
⁶ And the Pharisees went out and took counsel with the Herodians against him to destroy him. [FOR HIS LACK OF MERCY] .

[9:10 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
It's too much evidence. I am not your enemy. I am presenting you the truth, but you want to cling to the error. I guarantee you that you will get lost if you continue down that path. Take your fight against God, not with me. This is not personal. It is the word of God against the word of the devil—mentiroso desde el principio (JOHN 8:44).

[9:11 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
We do not keep one day a week as the Sabbath, because the Bible says that requirement “was to be done away with” (2 Cor. 3:7-11; see comments regarding this on page 337).' 2) 'But there is a Sabbath which we keep regularly (Heb. 4:4-11)

[9:10 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier

Mira, yo he leído todo lo que tú has puesto y te he dado respuesta a cada cosa, pero tú al parcer no has leído o considerado una sola cosa de lo que te he presentado. Ya yo te expliqué lo que dice Coloseses 2 y Efesios 2, que lo que fue clavado en la cruz fueron los ritos y sacrificios de animales que se hacía en el santuario, y que el mismo Daniel ol☺a profetizado (Dan. 9:25-28). Port tu mediocre estudio de la Biblia, y por estár metido en la secta satánica de Los Testigos de Jehová es que no puedes—ni tienes capacidad de discernir estas cosas.

NO, you do not keep the Sabbath of Hebrews 4—never! ^[5] Jesus, “Our Rest” — Hebrews 4 and The Great Error of Evangelicals
[STUDY, CristoVerdad]

The one who will judge will be God. Don't think you're going to do better with God than with me.. Your future doesn't look bright.

[9:12 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
So the law wasn't for that? You see that you contradict yourself

I win

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[9:12 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and you leave the most important part of the law: justice, mercy and faith. This was necessary to do, without stopping doing that. —MATHEW 23:23

No, you won't be better off.

[9:12 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Nothing you say you already lost

[9:13 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Yes of course. You earned your downfall.

[9:13 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
You could never answer my question

[9:13 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Who speaks in the Apocalypse?

[9:13 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Does the law bring us closer to Christ or separate us?

[9:13 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
You have no answer

[9:13 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
¹The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his servants the things that must soon take place; and he declared it by sending it by his angel to his servant John,—REVELATION 1:1

[9:14 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
So what

[9:14 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Revelation 22:14-16

¹⁴Blessed are those who KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS, *to have the right to the tree of life, and to enter through the gates into the city.
¹⁵But the dogs will be outside, and the sorcerers, the fornicators, the murderers, the idolaters, and everyone who loves and makes lies.
¹⁶AND or Jesus I have sent my angel to testify to you of these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright and morning star. —REVELATION 22:14-15

Connect the dots...that, if you can see the points!

[9:14 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Answer me the question first. Hahaha you look like a broken record

[9:14 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Jesus says that if you do not keep his law, do not dress, because you are not going to heaven. And I don't have to get out of there. This is the last book of the Bible, and the last chapter, and speaks of the law of God!

[9:15 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
You never answered my question
Does the law bring us closer to Christ or separate us? Why are you afraid to respond?

[9:16 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Es que no te quería romper el corazón tan pronto, pues al perecer esa es la "gema" que traes. Pero, ya vamos a cerrar esto:

"La ley" nos acerca y nos separa de Cristo. Esa es mi respouesta, aunque te dí esa respuesta prácticamente desde el principio, varias veces, pero donde no hay discernimiento, ¿no se imputará pecado?—pués, no (HOSEA 4:6).

[9:16 PM, 9/17/2019] Rafael
Who was the law of the 10 commandments for? ?

[9:16 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
¹⁹And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and the ark of his covenant was seen in the temple. And there were lightning, voices, thunder, an earthquake and great hail. -APOCALYPSE. 11:19

[9:17 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Answer my question. Brings us closer or separates us

[9:18 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Raphael, The law of the ten commandments has two primary functions: 1) SALVATION, to the one who keeps it, getting closer to God that way (APC. 14:12, 1JOHN 3:6) and 2) DAMNATION, making—effectively, one with the devil to the one who rapes her (1 JOHN 3:8), como lo es en el caso personas como este joven sin discernimiento, llamado Alex.—

⁸But we know that the law is good, if one uses it legitimately;
⁹Knowing this, that the law was not given for the righteous, but for the transgressors and the disobedient, for the wicked and sinners, for the irreverent and profane, for the parricides and matricides, for the murderers,
¹⁰for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars and perjurers, and for everything that opposes sound doctrine,
¹¹according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which has been committed to me. —1 TIMOTHY 1:8-11

[9:18 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
There is.

[9:18 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
you are lost goodbye sir

[9:18 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
I already answered the famous question, "la ley" nos acerca y nos separa de Cristo. Doble función. ¿Puedes verlo?

[9:19 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
You are separated from Christ you are not a Christian goodbye sir excellent night

[9:19 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
You do not read?

[9:20 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
No, it was already said that you are separated from Christ if you remain under the law.
You're not a Christian, goodbye.

[EDITION] Jose Luis Javier
Eres de las personas con más pobre dicernimiento que he visto en mi vida. Pero más que eso, en tí veo perversidad. Sin embargo, aquí estoy para servir y no para ser servido. Veamos—

"La ley", cuando se guarda, nos acerca a Cristo. Después de todo, "el fin de la ley es cristo", ¿no?—

²And he is the propitiation for our sins; and not only for ours, but also for those of the whole world.
³Y en esto sabemos que nosotros le conocemos, si guardamos sus mandamientos. ⁴He who says: I know him, y no guarda sus mandamientos, el tal es mentiroso, y la verdad no está en él; ⁵pero el que guarda su palabra, en éste verdaderamente el amor de Dios se ha perfeccionado; por esto sabemos que estamos en él.—1 JUAN 2:2-5

It seems to me that I am talking to a preschooler. Well, no way—

¹⁰ If you keep my commandments, you will remain in my love; just as I have kept my Father's commandments, and remain in his love. —JOHN 15:10

If you will keep—friend, if you will keep.

"La ley", cuando se viola, no solo nos aleja, sino que nos separa de Cristo—

²³ because all have sinned and come short of the glory of God, ²⁴being justified freely by his grace, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,—ROMANS 3:21-24

And what is sin?

⁴Everyone who commits sin also breaks the law; for sin is a violation of the law.

⁶Whoever abides in him does not sin; everyone who sins has not seen him or known him. ⁷Little children, let no one deceive you; He who does justice is just, as he is just.
8He who practices sin is of the devil; because the devil sin from the beginning. For this the Son of God appeared, to undo the works of the devil.
⁹Everyone who is born of God does not practice sin, because the seed of God remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. —1 JOHN 3:6-9

Do you understand now, or do you need more?

⁸But we know that the law is good, if one uses it legitimately;
⁹Knowing this, that the law was not given for the righteous, but for the transgressors and the disobedient, for the wicked and sinners, for the irreverent and profane, for the parricides and matricides, for the murderers,
¹⁰for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars and perjurers, and for everything that opposes sound doctrine,
¹¹according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which has been committed to me. —1 TIMOTHY 1:8-11

[9:21 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
²⁵For truly circumcision benefits, if you keep the law; But if you are a transgressor of the law, your circumcision becomes uncircumcision.
²⁶If then the uncircumcised man keeps the ordinances of the law, will not his uncircumcision be counted as circumcision?
²⁷And he who is physically uncircumcised, but perfectly keeps the law, will condemn you, who by the letter of the law and by circumcision are a transgressor of the law. —ROMANS 2:25-27

I'm just refreshing your memory. Well, or at least I'm trying to put something into that thing inside your head that you call your brain. But remember that evolution is a false theory, and that Nothing will ever come out of nothing!

[9:21 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
The law you talked about all this time separates you from Christ

[9:21 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Ya te había contestado. No, mi amigo, lo que te separa de Cristo es que violes la ley que él te dijo que guardaras como prueba de tu amor a él (JOHN 14:15). Si no la guardas, es porque no le amas. Y si no le amas, créeme, es porque estás fuera de su gracia.

IS THAT ALL YOU HAVE?

[9:21 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
No

[9:21 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
I expected to be challenged. But it has NOT happened.

Bring what you have.

[9:21 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
To continue with the law the law ended Romans:10:4

[9:22 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
⁴because the end of the law is Christ, for righteousness to everyone who believes. —ROMANS 10:4

Have you ever read Romans 13:10?

[EDITION] Jose Luis Javier
⁸I am the Alpha and the Omega, principle and end, says the Lord, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.

Esas palabras las pronunció el mismo Jesús. ¿Es Jesús el fin de sí mimso? ¿Es el fin siempre el fin? ¿Tienes Tú algún end in the life?

[9:22 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Perfect

[EDITION] Jose Luis Javier
You mean perfect!

⁷ The law of the Lord is perfect, that converts the soul; The testimony of Jehovah is faithful, making wise the simple.—PSALMS 19:9

[9:23 PM, 9/17/2019] Rafael
And who was this for?

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Acts 21:25
But as for the Gentiles who have believed, we have written to them determining that they should not keep any of these things; only that they abstain from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from drowning, and from fornication.

[9:23 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Who did Paul preach to?

Leístes ese capítulo completo Rafael? Vamos a expandir un poco ese texto, y verás—como siempre, que la Biblia se explica sola.

Riot in the Temple

¹⁸ And the next day Pablo He went in with us to see James, and all the elders were gathered;
¹⁹ To whom, after having greeted them, he told them one by one the things that God had done among the Gentiles through his ministry.
²⁰ When they heard it, they glorified God, and said to him: You see, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are who have believed; and all are zealous for the law. ²¹ But they have been informed about you, that you teach all the Jews who are among the Gentiles to apostatize from Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children, nor observe the customs.
²² What is there then? The multitude will surely gather, for they will hear that you have come.
²³ Do, then, what we tell you: There are four men among us who are obliged to fulfill their vow.
²⁴ Take them with you, purify yourself with them, and pays their expenses to have their heads shaved; and everyone will understand that there is nothing they were told about you, but you also walk orderly, keeping the law.
²⁵ But as for the Gentiles who have believed, We have written to them determining that they should not keep any of this; only that they abstain from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from drowning, and from fornication.
²⁶ So Paul took those men with him, and the next day, having purified himself with them, he entered the temple, to announce the fulfillment of the days of purification, when the offering was to be presented for each of them.
²⁷ But when the seven days were almost over, some Jews from Asia, seeing him in the temple, stirred up the entire crowd. and they laid hands on him,
²⁸shouting: Men of Israel, help! This is the man who everywhere teaches everyone against the people, the law and this place; and besides this, he has brought Greeks into the temple, and has desecrated this holy place.
²⁹For they had previously seen Trophimus of Ephesus with him in the city, whom they thought Paul had brought into the temple.
³⁰So the whole city was moved, and the people gathered together; and seizing Paul, they dragged him out of the temple, and immediately closed the doors. 31And while they sought to kill him, the tribune of the company was told that the entire city of Jerusalem was in an uproar. ——ACTS 21:18-31

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I could go into more detail about this Rafael, but I'm just going to say the following: Pablo was the victim of gossip.

[9:25 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
You ignore Galatians 5:4

[9:25 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
¹³because it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law will be justified. —ROMANS 2:13

Does Paul contradict himself, are you not understanding Paul?

[9:26 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Why is your friend attacking me in private, you ordered it!

[9:26 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
⁴You have separated yourselves from Christ, you who are justified by the law; from grace you have fallen. —GALATIANS 5:4

¹³because it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law will be justified. —ROMANS 2:13

One more time, Does Paul contradict himself, are you not understanding Paul? Tell me, is Pablo contradicting himself, or you are not understanding.

[9:26 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
You can't alone or what

[9:26 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Do you know what the ceremonial law is?

[9:26 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Because they are so

[9:26 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
You know that?

[9:26 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Reply

[9:27 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
¹³because it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law will be justified. —ROMANS 2:13

Does Paul contradict himself, are you not understanding Paul?

[9:27 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Hahaha copy and paste you don't give one

[9:27 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
¹³because it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law will be justified. —ROMANS 2:13

Does Paul contradict himself, are you not understanding Paul?

I don't know what you guys are talking about.

¹³because it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law will be justified. —ROMANS 2:13

Does Paul contradict himself, are you not understanding Paul?

Explain to me.

²² For according to the inner man, I delight in the law of God;
²³But I see ANOTHER LAW in my members, that rebels against the law of my mind, and that takes me captive to THE LAW OF SIN which is in my members. —ROMANS7:22-23

¿Entiendes tú eso?

[9:29 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Hahaha you only know how to ask but you don't answer
Let's sleep now

[9:30 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
²² For according to the inner man, I delight in the law of God;
²³But I see ANOTHER LAW in my members, that rebels against the law of my mind, and that takes me captive to THE LAW OF SIN which is in my members. —ROMANS 7:22-23

Does Paul contradict himself, are you not understanding Paul?

[9:30 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
What is the text of apocalypse? What are you saying ?

[9:30 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Who will be justified?

[9:31 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Answer me. The text of apocalypse

[9:31 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
What text? You have not explained Apoc to me. 22:15.

[9:32 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Revelation where he talks about the law of Christ and the commandments of God

[9:32 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
That is? I tell you, I don't have a Bible on hand. tell me what he says

[9:33 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
¹⁴Here is the patience of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. —REVELATION 14:12

[9:33 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Yes, one of them. Explain it. Here's the other one, the one I was asking you about earlier—

¹⁵But the dogs they will be out , and sorcerers, fornicators, murderers, idolaters, and everyone who loves and tells lies. —APOC. 14:12

Who will be left out of the kingdom?

[9:34 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Is it 14:12?

[9:34 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
You ask. I don't know what text you are referring to.

[9:35 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
If that's it I think

[9:35 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
If you don't have a Bible, that's not my problem. I'm not a fortune teller. It wouldn't make any difference though. You have the same errors with Bible or without Bible.

[9:36 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
¹²Here is the patience of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. —APC. 14:12

Who goes to heaven?

[9:36 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
That's what my translation says
???

[9:37 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
14 Pursue peace with everyone, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord. HEBREWS 12:14

[9:38 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Talk about the faith of Jesus

[9:38 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Es el mismo, aunque esa es una traducción muy extraña. Pero ahí lo dice también… "LOS QUE OBSERVAN LOS MANDAMIENTOS DE DIOS"

[9:39 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Which Ten?

[9:39 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
ISA. 28:10, 13 Here is the answer.

Who is the devil chasing?

¹⁸And he gave Moses, when he had finished speaking with him on Mount Sinai, two tablets of testimony, stone tablets written with the finger of God. —EXODUS 18:31

²⁸And he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; He ate no bread, nor drank water; and wrote the words of the covenant on tablets, the ten Commandments. —EXODUS 34:28

[9:41 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
APC. 22:15 I'll give you the answer. Remember, which are the ten... it's one book. It's the same story.

[9:41 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
The word commandment is generic John 13:34,35

[9:42 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
OK, Explain to me Revelation[is 22:15. Who does not enter the kingdom of God?

[9:42 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
I don't know how it refers to the decalogue specifically.

[9:42 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
I'm going to help you—

¹³The word, therefore, of Jehovah It will be commandment after commandment to them, mandate upon mandate, line after line, line upon line, a little there, a little there; until they go and fall on their backs, and are broken, bound, and taken. ISAIAH 28:13

[9:43 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
There it does not specify the 10 commandments either.

[9:43 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Read Revelation 22:14, and then 22:15. You're not connecting, friend.

[9:43 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
And if it is taken literally, then it would be necessary to comply with all the 600 laws of the Mosaic law.

[9:43 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
We are talking about the law of God—the ten Commandments. If you don't know anything about ceremonial law, it's better not to get involved in that field. When you don't know something, you stay silent.

And yes, Revelation 22:14-15 refers to the decalogue. If you need me to show you, just tell me. There is no sin in not knowing something. You are not taught these things in those sects that meet. So I know how to understand.

[9:44 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
BAD'1989, Bible up to date, 1989
Is 28:10-1310 Children who repeat: “a?b?c?ch?d, a?e?i?o?u, a little here, a little there”?»
11Well then, God will speak to this people with mocking lips and strange tongues,
12 people to whom he said, “This is the place of rest; let the weary rest"; and also: "This is the place of rest." But they didn't want to listen!
13 For the word of the Lord to them will also be: “á?b?c?ch?d, a?e?i?o?u, here a little, there a little.” So that they may turn backwards when they walk, and become injured, tangled and trapped.

[EDITION] Jose Luis Javier
Isaías 28:10-13 simplemente te está mandando a "escudriñar las escritas", algo que tú no estás haciendo.

[9:44 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
You are going to continue insulting.

It is just the bad translation of the Queen Valera, in this version there is nothing that suggests keeping the Sabbath

[EDITION] Jose Luis Javier
It's just that you don't have a single drop of discernment in your head. That text does not talk about the Sabbath, but it gives you the key to understanding APC. 22:14-15. He is telling you to search the scripture and compare scripture with scripture. It seems to me that I am talking to a 5-year-old child, or someone who has never held a Bible in their hands.

[9:45 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Go go to Google

[9:46 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
I am going to explain Revelation 22:14-16 to you since obviously you will never be able to discern it, although it is very simple. Let's see-

¹⁴Blessed are those who KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS, to be entitled to the tree of life, and to enter through the gates in the city.
¹⁵But the[1] dogs they will be out , [2] and the sorcerers, [3] the fornicators, [4]the murderers, [5] the idolaters, and [6] everyone who loves and makes lies.
¹⁶ I Jesus I have sent my angel to testify to you of these things in the churches. I am the root and the linage of David, the bright and morning star. —REVELATION 22:14-16

Ok, Revelation 14 tells us that to get to heaven we must keep God's commandments—that is, his holy law. (EXD. 20:1-17). It is true—as you say, that the word commandments can be a generic term, but not in this case. Like any text, you have to understand its context. And verse 15 gives us that context. Pay attention to the numbers I put in square brackets.

Apocalypse. 22:14 gives us the characteristics we must have to reach heaven. And verse 22:15 gives us the characteristics of those who will not arrive [enter] his kingdom. Let's analyze each number in brackets—

THE COMMANDMENTS AND THE LAW (Revelation 22:14-15)

[1] The Dogs: Dogs, that is, homosexuals, will not enter the kingdom of God, since homosexuality violates several of the commandments of the Decalogue (5th, 7th, 2do, 4to, 10). Deuteronomio 23:17-18 te dá el contexto de los "Perros" from Revelation 22:15,
[2] The sorcerers: Bueno, demás está decir que la hechicería viola la ley de Dios (1er, 2nd, 3rd, 4th)
[3] The fornicators: Fornication and adultery are the same sin, in varied circumstances. (9th, 1st, 2nd, 4th, 3rd)
[4] the murderers: Is there a need to describe this sin? (6th, 4th, 5th, 1st)
[5] The idolaters: Like sorcerers, this group is condemned by law (2nd, 1st, 4th)
[6] Everyone who loves and makes a lie: liars violate the 9th commandment directly (9), and by extension, the other 9 commandments, since any deviation from what was established by God in the law (and all his word), is a lie. For example, it is a lie that homosexual marriage is approved by God (5th, 7th, 2nd, 4th), as it is also a lie that God approves the worship of Mary or any other idol, and that Sunday is the Lord's day.

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So, YEAH, Apocalipsis 22:15 hace mención explícita e implícita de la ley de Dios, y que además es lo contrario a Apocalipsis 22:14; entonces tenemos que "los mandamientos" referidos en el versículo 22:14 es una referencia directa a la ley del Sinaí—los diez mandamientos. Y para cerrrar con broche de oro, Apocalipsis 22:16 nos da la firma del que peonunció estas palabras. Es decir, from him who gave that same law!

¹³The word therefore of Jehovah [his_highlight background="#fff621″ color="#313131″]les será mandamiento tras mandamiento,[/su_highlight] mandato sobre mandato, renglón tras renglón, line upon line, a little there, a little there; until they go and fall on their backs, and are broken, bound, and taken. ISAIAH 28:13

Line upon line, as the Bible says, friend. Can you see the dots now?… Can you connect them too?

[9:46 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
I'm going to give you a key, on what day was it that John received the first vision of the Apocalypse?

All churches are sects. It's not an insult, it's the truth. The Bible says it (ISA. 4:1, APC. 14:4). All denominations are sects. I haven't just said that to you, and you know it. I've said it here since day one.

[9:47 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Which of these commandments must be kept?

[9:48 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
ALL (James 2:15)

[9:48 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Answer me

[9:48 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
ALL (James 2:15). How many commandments did God say to break? Answer me.

Now explain Isaiah 66:22-23 to me

[9:50 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Then you show them Matthew 24:14

[EDITION] José Luis Javier
It really bothers me to keep repeating the same thing, but friend, ¡usted si es ignorante!

Jesús dijo, "si me amais guardad mis mandamientos" (JOHN 14:15). That's part of the evengalelium too. Or are you going to teach the world to love the devil?

Y una cosa que yo nunca voy a terminar de entener es como es que la Biblia sigue hablando de algo hasta su última página, cuando eso fue abolido mucho antes? How long after the death of Jesus did Paul and John write?

[9:50 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
There was a change of law now we are under the law of Christ

[9:51 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Yes of course. Rome changed it and gave it to all of you. Am I not telling you that you are Catholic, friend?

[9:51 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
And the law of Christ does not say that we must keep the Sabbath

[9:51 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
"Si me amais guardad mis mandamientos". ¿Qué tan difícil de entender es esto?

The Day of Resurrection: The New Creation

[9:52 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
That is what the Catholic Church says, and you have accepted it... That makes each of you Catholic. He who steals is called a thief; and he who follows Catholic doctrines, Catholic

But God already warned...

[9:52 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Copy and paste from Google great is your wisdom

[EDITION] Jose Luis Javier
Supongamos por un momento que si estoy copiando de Google como dices, si te estoy presentando la verdad, ¿qué importa eso? Además, prefiero copiar y pegar a decir las necedades y barbaridades que aquí has comentado, y que—con Biblia en manos, te he refutado. Eres un amante de la ineptitud, eso es lo que eres. Amas la mentira, y como tal te vas a perder (APC. 22:15). This is what you love—

CHANGE OF LAW FOR 'PROTESTANTS'

1. “Does the [Catholic] church have the power to make modifications to God's commandments?
Instead of the seventh day and other festivals designated by the previous law, The church has decreed Sundays and holy days to be kept for the worship of God; and these we are now obliged to keep in consequence of the commandment of God, instead of the old Sabbath.” —Excellency Reverend Dr. Challoner, p. 211. [Compilation of Christian Doctrine]

2. How do you prove that the church has the power to command holidays and holy days?
By the act of change from Saturday to Sunday, which Protestants allow; and, for which they affectionately contradict each other, keeping Sunday strictly, and breaking most of the other festivals commanded by the same Church. How do you check this? Because by keeping Sunday, they recognize the power of the Church to organize the parties and the command to be under sin; and not to save the rest [of the festivals] commanded by her, in fact they deny, once again, the same power.” —Rev. Henry Tuberville, DD (RC), (1833), p. 58. Compilation of Christian Doctrine

3. “Do you have any other way to demonstrate that the church has the power to institute holy days of obligation?
Had she not had such power, she could not have done it with which all modern religious people agree with her. She could not have substituted the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday, the seventh day, a change for which there is no biblical authority.” — Doctrinal Catechism, Rev. Stephen Keenan, (1851), p.174.^[6]Catholic Church and Its Power to Change the Law —Doctrinal Catechism, Rev. Stephen Keenan, (1851),
[LINK, Bible Light

4. Catholic Church Admits Change, Again
“But The Church of God considered it correct move the party from Saturday to Sunday!” —Catechism of the Council of Trent p.365, 1761 4 ^[3]The Catechism of the Holy Council of Trent — Catholic Church Allows Change of the Sabbath
[DOCUMENT, CristoVerdad]

5. Great Power
They [Catholics] allege that Saturday was changed to Sunday, the Lord's Day, contrary to the Decalogue, as it appears; Nor is there any more striking example than the change of the Sabbath day. Great, they say, is the power and authority of the Church, since it abolished one of the ten commandments. ^[7]Great Power of the Catholic Church to Change the Sabbath, Augsburg Confession, Art. 28
[LINK, Believe] — Augsburg Confession, Article 28

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I repeat, ¡USTED ES CATÓLICEITHER MY FRIEND!

²⁵And he will speak words against the Most High, and he will break the saints of the Most High, and will think about changing the times and the law; and they will be delivered into his hand until a time, and times, and half a time. DANIEL 7:25

[9:53 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Rome or God?

[9:53 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
ROME.

The Bible warns about it and you still don't understand—or don't want to understand. That's what happens to them for following sects. You follow the same Sabbath day as Rome, and that doesn't turn your brain on.

Have you never asked yourself why? Since when does God's things resemble those of the devil? Does God imitate the devil, or does the devil imitate God? Since when does the majority follow God?

⁵⁸This is the bread that came down from heaven; not as your fathers ate the manna and died; He who eats this bread will live forever.
⁵⁹These things he said in the synagogue, teaching in Capernaum.
⁶⁰When many of his disciples heard them, they said: This is a hard word; who can hear it? […] ⁶⁶Since then Many of his disciples turned back and no longer walked with him. —JOHN 6:59-60, 66

Explain to me ISAIAH 66:22-23

[9:54 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
I have never stated that Sunday is the Lord's day, that is a fallacy of hasty generalization.

[EDITION] Jose Luis Javier
And why then do you congregate in a Sunday Church—on Sundays?

[9:54 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
²²Because like the new heavens and the new earth that I do will remain before me, says the LORD, so shall your descendants and your name remain.
²³And from month to month, and from Sabbath day to Sabbath day, ALL FLESH WILL COME TO WORSHIP before me, says the Lord. —ISAIAH 66:22-23

There it says that the Sabbath will be kept for eternity, for all flesh. I didn't make that up, my friend. You are defending man's doctrines.

[9:55 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)

Ausejo, Seraphim of Ausejo, 1975 Ro 7:6-7
⁶but now, by dying to that which imprisoned us, we have become free from that law, so that we serve in the new regime of the Spirit, and not in the old regime of the written letter.7 What shall we say then? That the law is sin? Do not even think about it! But the truth is I have not known sin except through the law. Because I would not have known what covetousness was if the law had not told me: You shall not covet.

What do you understand by disobliging?

[9:56 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
⁸This people of lips honors me; But, his heart is away from me.
⁹ Well, they honor me in vain, Teaching as doctrines, commandments of men. —MATHEW 15:8-9

[9:56 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)

Ausejo, Seraphim of Ausejo, 1975
Ro 7:6-7
⁶but now, by dying to that which imprisoned us, we have become free from that law, so that we serve in the new regime of the Spirit, and not in the old regime of the written letter.7 What shall we say then? That the law is sin? Do not even think about it! But the truth is I have not known sin except through the law. Because I would not have known what covetousness was if the law had not told me: You shall not covet.

[9:56 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
How many laws does Romans 7 talk about?

[9:57 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Paul gives that example the tenth commandment, why?

Of the Ten Commandments

[9:57 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Not… Or rather, yes and no. Because there are always two laws (or more).

[9:58 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Why does he put the tenth commandment as an example of the law of which they have been disobliged. You understand. What do you understand by that word?

[9:58 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Two laws: 1. When you keep (God's Law), and 2. When it is violated (law of Sin).

[9:58 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Let me explain the word unobligated

[10:00 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
I think I already gave you the tetxo, but I'll give it to you again...

[10:00 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
I am waiting for your answer What does the word disobliged mean?

[10:00 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Disassociated, you no longer have an obligation to that.

[10:01 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Ok so that happened with the law and the Ten Commandments okay?
you said it yourself

[EDITION] Jose Luis Javier
Where does God say, and where do I say that we are disenfranchised by the law? I only gave you the definition of unbound that you asked for, not that it applies to God's law, good pervert.

[10:01 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Ausejo, Seraphim of Ausejo, 1975
Ro 7:6-7
⁶but now, by dying to that which imprisoned us, we have become free from that law, so that we serve in the new regime of the Spirit, and not in the old regime of the written letter.7 What shall we say then? That the law is sin? Do not even think about it! But the truth is I have not known sin except through the law. Because I would not have known what covetousness was if the law had not told me: You shall not covet.

EL mismo texto te dice lo glorioso de la ley, que convierte el alma (PSA. 19:7).

[10:01 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Would you not covet it from the Ten Commandments?

[10:01 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
No estás conectando [como siempre], algo super simple. Dime ¿codició o no ccoó Eva? Y sí, el décimo mandamiento habla de la codicia.

[10:02 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Of course the tenth

[10:02 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Paul is talking about two laws, and you have soup on your head. I refute it with him in Romans 7:

[10:02 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)

Ausejo, Seraphim of Ausejo, 1975
Jr 31:31-33
31 Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will make a new alliance with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah.
32 Not like the covenant I sealed with your fathers on the day I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt. They broke my alliance, and I treated them as lord - declares Yahweh -.
33 This will be the alliance that I will seal with the house of Israel, after those days - declares the LORD -: I put my law within them and write it on their hearts; I will be their God and they will be my people.

[10:03 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
But why use that example. Keep searching on Google
Tell me where it is written you should not covet?

Google

[10:08 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
I will call you Mr Google

[EDITION] José Luis Javier
No te preocupes, adelante. Google es una enciclopedia virtual en donde tienes acceso a prácticamente a casí todo la información de la historia completa de la humanidad. Aún la Biblia completa está en Google, en todas las versiones habidas y por haber. Creo que en eso hay sabiduría. Sin embargo a tí solo t he citado la Biblia, y pte he presentado algunos enlazas que tengo archivado en mi propia página web, no en Google.

[10:11 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
⁶But now we are free from the law, having died to that to which we were subject, so that we serve under the new regime of the Spirit and not under the old regime of the letter.

[10:08 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
The sin that dwells in me

7 What shall we say then? Is the law a sin? In no way. [2] But I did not know sin except through the law; for neither would I know covetousness, unless the law said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, produced in me all covetousness; because without the law sin is dead.
9 And I once lived without the law; But when the commandment came, sin revived and I died.
10 And I found that the same commandment that was for life, proved for me to be death;
11 porque el pecado, tomando ocasión por el mandamiento, …[10:12 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Ausejo, Serafín de Ausejo, 1975

Col 2:16
Therefore, let no one criticize you in matters of food or drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath.

There are three laws. Verse 14 says the law is spiritual [ROM. 7:14]. The law of sin also verse 25 [ROM. 7:25]

[10:11 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier

[10:17 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
You let me listen to your audio and then send another one, don't be a chapulín, give me time ok

Romans 7:6,7 talks about the ten commandments.
Verse 14 talks about the law of the spirit
Verse 25 talks about the law of sin

There are three laws????????????. And he didn't say anything ????????

You only repeat sects like a parrot??

Tell me where Paul quotes Romans 7:7 from before continuing.

[10:17 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier

Don't leave me without an answer. Better written. I waste time listening to the audio. The first part is a lie, verse 6 talks about the law the decalogue. He's stirring them up. Nobody said that the law is cursed, You made that up. We only said that there was a change in the law. We are under the rule of the spirit or that of Christ

[10:17 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier

Y la ley del Espíritu de Crsito es precisamente la ley de los diez mandamienots (Rom. 7:14, Rom. 8:5-10).

[EDITION] Jose Luis Javier
Wow, tú no dejas de sorprenderme. Dime, ¿nos llama Cristo a ser espirituales o a ser mundanos?

¹⁶I say therefore: Walk in the Spirit, and do not fulfill the desires of the flesh.
¹⁷For the desire of the flesh is against the Spirit, and the desire of the Spirit is against the flesh; and these are opposed to each other, so that you do not do what you want.
¹⁸ But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. ¹⁹And the works of the flesh are manifest, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
²⁰idolatry, witchcraft, enmities, strife, jealousy, wrath, strife, dissensions, heresies,
²¹envy, murder, drunkenness, orgies, and things similar to these; about which I warn you, as I have told you before, that Those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.—GALATIANS 5:16-21

ANOTHER THING-

THE DIVINITY OF GOD

⁷Because three are those who bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.

Are you guided by the spirit, or by the flesh?

⁵For those who are of the flesh think about the things of the flesh; but those who are of the Spirit, in the things of the Spirit.
⁶Because Caring for the flesh is death, but taking care of the Spirit is life and peace.
⁷For the mind of the flesh is enmity against God; because they are not subject to the law of God, nor can they;
⁸and those who live according to the flesh cannot please God. —ROMANS 8:5-8

El problema tuyo y de la gran basta mayoría de borregos que se congregan en iglesias "protestantes" es que sea han abanderado de los ewscritos de Pablo para defender sus herejías. Pero Pablo es para mentes pensantes y espirituales, no para ineptos como ustedes. Por eso es que siempre viven metiendo la pata. Pero Dios tiene una advertencia para ustedes—

¹⁵And know that the patience of our Lord is for salvation; as well as our beloved brother Pablo, According to the wisdom given to him, he has written to you,
¹⁶almost in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; between of which there are some difficult to understand, which the unlearned and unstable twist, as well as the other Scriptures, to their own destruction. —2 PETER 3:15-16

That is the path you have chosen, and no one takes you from there, no matter how impious.

[10:42 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
The beginning of verse 6 is very clear but now we are free from the law [ROM. 7:6] Man, see you tomorrow better. you never finished

[10:42 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier

Brother [I correct, friend], with all due respect, leave your mediocrity.

[10:42 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Don't stain, give me a chance to listen, don't send more, wait

Ausejo, Seraphim of Ausejo, 1975
Rom 7:4
So, my brothers, you too were left dead to the law through the body of Christ, to actually belong to another: to the risen from the dead, so that we bear fruit for God.

[10:42 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Dead to the law of sin, inept.

Yes, there was a change… ROME

CHANGE OF LAW FOR 'PROTESTANTS'

2. How do you prove that the church has the power to command holidays and holy days?
By the act of change from Saturday to Sunday, which Protestants allow; and, by which they affectionately contradict each other, maintaining Sunday strictly, and breaking most of the other festivals commanded by the same Church. How do you check this? Because by keeping Sunday, they recognize the power of the Church to order the holidays and the command to be under sin; and not by keeping the rest [of the festivals] commanded by her, in fact they deny, once again, the same power.” —Rev. Henry Tuberville, DD (RC), (1833), p. 58. Compilation of Christian Doctrine

5. Great Power
They [Catholics] allege that Saturday was changed to Sunday, the Lord's Day, contrary to the Decalogue, as it appears; Nor is there any more striking example than the change of the Sabbath day. Great, they say, is the power and authority of the Church, since it abolished one of the ten commandments. — Augsburg Confession, Article 28 ^[7]Great Power of the Catholic Church to Change the Sabbath, Augsburg Confession, Art. 28
[LINK, Believe]

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The Day of Resurrection: The New Creation

2174 Jesus rose from the dead “on the first day of the week” (Mt 28, 1; Mk 16, 2; Lk 24, 1; Jn 20, 1). As it is the “first day”, The day of Christ's Resurrection remembers the first creation. As it is the “eighth day,” which follows Saturday (cf Mc 16, 1; Mt 28, 1), It means the new creation inaugurated with the resurrection of Christ. For Christians it became the first of all days, the first of all festivals, the day of the Lord (Hè kyriakè hèmera, dies dominica), on Sunday:"

"We all get together the day of the sun because it is the first day [after the Jewish Sabbath,[/su_highlight] but also the first day], on which God, bringing matter out of darkness, created the world; that same day, Jesus Christ…— CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, Art. 2174 ^[4]The Day of Resurrection: the New Creation
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[10:45 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Read that. What parish do you congregate in?

[10:46 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Not Google

[10:46 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier

[10:46 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová):
It does not matter. Let me hear your audio please ok

[10:46 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier:
It's not Google, that's my page, and the Vatican page, who you serve.

[10:47 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová):
Don't write, let me listen carefully

[10:47 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Read Article 2174 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

The Day of Resurrection: The New Creation

[10:47 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Are you going to let me listen to the stupid things you sent?

[10:47 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Ya, it's so good with so many pearls. I've finished now.
Escuchalos [los audios].

[10:48 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Or are you afraid that I will refute you?

[10:48 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
FORWARD!

[10:48 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
And who says that we do not comply with God's law?

[10:48 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
What we are showing you is now the law is spiritual, as they say??????

[EDITION] Jose Luis Javier
Otro error que sale de tu boca. No es que hay otra ley espiritual, sino que ley es espiritual (ROM. 7:14).

[10:49 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
It refutes itself

[10:49 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
That is why Saturday as a written law no longer obligates us, now it remains a principle that invites us to give time to God every day XD.
Try to send audios of at least 2 minutes
Maximum

[10:51 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
Now Respond is the spiritual or Written law!

[EDITION] Jose Luis Javier
Romanos 7 te contesta la pregunta.

²⁵Because circumcision in truth benefits, if you keep the law; but if you rebel against the law, your circumcision is made uncircumcision.
²⁶So that, If the uncircumcised man keeps the righteousness of the law, will not his uncircumcision be considered circumcision?
²⁷And that which is uncircumcised by nature, perfectly keeping the law, he will judge you , that with the letter and with circumcision you are rebelling against the law.
²⁸Because he who is openly Jewish is not a Jew; nor is circumcision that which is manifest in the flesh:
²⁹But he is a Jew who is one on the inside; and circumcision is that of the heart, in spirit, not in letter; the praise of which is not of men, but of God. —ROMANS 2:25-29

I already told you, stop inventing with Pablo that Pablo is for people with brains. Friend, You are gross!

[10:51 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
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The purpose of the Sabbath was that, to dedicate time to God

²⁷He also said to them: The Sabbath was madebycauseof theman, and not the manbycauseof the resting day. —MARK 2:27

I mean, dedicating time to God is a bad thing, and as such, God eliminated it. ¡Tremenda esa confesión!

¹³ [1] If you withhold your foot from the Sabbath, from doing your will on my holy day, [2] and you will call it a delight, holy, glorious of the Lord; [3] and you will venerate him, [4] not walking in your own paths, [5] nor seeking your will, [6] not even speaking your own words,
¹⁴so [7] you will delight in the Lord; and I will make you climb upon the heights of the earth, and I will give you the inheritance of Jacob your father to eat; for the mouth of the Lord has spoken it. —ISAIAH 58:13-14

[10:52 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Others can now participate. Yo debería agarrar mis perlas y llevarmelas, pero quizás haya alguien en este lugar que sí esté por a verdad. Quzás, solo quizás.

I want mercy and not sacrifice!

[11:46 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier
Good night everyone.

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[EDITION] Jose Luis Javier

La Conversación continúa. Alex debate con Miguel, y "enemigos" se unen en el error para crucifcar la verdad—a Cristo (JOHN 14:6). So, como nota final, quisiera señalar que este grupo de Estudios "Bíblicos" en WhatsApp está formado de personas de diferentes confesiones denominaciones y variociones dogmáticas sobre la escritura. El grupo presenta una amplia diversidad de evangélicos, Testigos de Jehová, Mormones, católicos por supuesto, así también como otros de las distintas variantes del trinitarismo y el unicitarismo, entre otros.

Dada esta diversidad de creencias y afiliación denominacional, no ha de sorprendernos que en este grupo hay muhca división entre sus miembros. Yo ya he debatido con unos cuantos de ellos. Lo interesante es que aunque la mayoría se estaban "matando" entre ellos, esta misma mayoría se ha unido para crucificar a Cristo, en su verdad—su santa ley (PSA.119:142). Por ejemplo, ya usted vieron como Teddy intervino en la conversación, y como el mismo Alex dijo que Tito Martinez debatiera comigo. Tito es un personaje del grupo a quienes practicamente todos ellos detestan, pues tiene muy mala reputación moral en el grupo. En las palsbras de Teddy (Agustín) (Mormón)

[12:29 PM, 9/10/2019] Teddy (Agustín) De acuerdo contigo José Luis este Tito es un IMPRESENTABLE
[12:29 PM, 9/10/2019] Teddy (Agustín) And a son of Beelzebub
[12:30 PM, 9/10/2019] Teddy (Agustín) He got corrupted with money
[12:30 PM, 9/10/2019] Teddy (Agustín)And he is a masturbator and looks at women with carnal desire
[12:31 PM, 9/10/2019] Teddy (Agustín) Este es un títere de belcebu el señor cochino Tito
[12:32 PM, 9/10/2019] Teddy (Agustín) No matter how much he talks to me about the Bible, I don't pay any attention to him, he is not the one who, being a sinful and heretical being, gives me lessons from God and the Bible, he only seeks PROTAGONISM, IN THE GROUPS HE IS A THEATREPER

Later in that conversation, Tito responds and the fight continues….

[3:41 PM, 9/10/2019] Tito Martinez That's the real old dirty mormonoid
[3:41 PM, 9/10/2019] Teddy (Agustín) No but of sinful masturbator you have all the winning tickets
[3:42 PM, 9/10/2019] Tito Martinez Bartolero yes because about once a week I become a saint Bartola as God commands
[3:42 PM, 9/10/2019] Tito Martinez and it is very healthy for the mind, body and spirit
[3:45 PM, 9/10/2019] Teddy (Agustín) tito bartolo
[[3:42 PM, 9/10/2019] Tito Martinez: Look, hypocrite, who went to talk about a heretic, a son of Satan who teaches that God the Father has another God the Father over him.

That's just an example of how well those two get along in the group (which Alex manages). Alex was not far behind and made the following comment:

[4:46 PM, 9/10/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Todos aqui asta los católicos romanos le temen A Tito Martínez el mejor Apologista
[5:12 PM, 9/10/2019] Teddy (Agustín) The best handjob you mean

OK, Alex—en el mejor de los casos simplemente está siendo sarcástico, pero a la vez es un instigador. Y en el peor de los casos, está concordando con Tito Martinez de que la porrnografía y la masturbación son acciones santificadas por Dios. Juzgue usted amigo lector. Sin embargo, durante mi debate con Alex el dijo que Tito me humilló en un dabate que habíamos tenido anteriormente, lo cual (la humillación)—obviamente, NUNCA sucedió. Pero ahora él salió a defender a Tito, pues Tito es otro que dice que "No hay Ley", y Si no hay ley, pues la pornografía y la masturbación—obiamente, no son condenadas por la palabra de Dios—Dios mismo..

A few days ago, Ariel Paz and I were going to have a debate about the "impersonalidad" del Espíritu Santo. Por razón de dificultades técnicas, Ariel y yo no pudimos tener una video conferencia que habíamos pactado. Ambos acordamos fijar una fecha más adelate. Tengo que decir que tuvimos una conversación muy amena, aunque obviamente tenemos posiciones divididas en cuanto a ese tema. Ariel es un unicitario (Jesús no es Dios, ni El Espíritu Santo es Dios). Como no hemos abordado el tema todavía, no voy a expandir al respecto. Pero Alex es Testigo de Jehová, al igual que Paz.

After finishing this debate with Alex, you will have noticed his penultimate comment:

[11:37 PM, 9/17/2019] [Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Ariel peace, what happened to the debate about the holy spirit?

Alex simplemente está trantando de encontrar a alguien que haga conmigo lo que él no pudo hacer en este debate, refutarme. Y no le importa si ésta persona tenga diferentes creencias a las de él. Incluso, Alex me había enviado un video donde Ariel Paz es supuestamente humillado por un católico. Durante mi debate con Alex, Ariel Paz me escribió en privado y me dijo "Shabath shalom, Hno. La ley de Díos es perpetua eterna". Así que vemos que Paz y Alex están en Polos opuestos.

And we see that the majority in this group put their differences aside, and united to attack the law of God, that is—crucify the truth. (PSA 119:142). We already have precedents in the Bible where this type of union has occurred in the past—

¹¹Then Herod with his soldiers He despised and mocked him, dressing him in splendid clothing; and he sent him again to Pilate.
¹²And Pilate and Herod became friends that day; because before they were at enmity with each other .

Esa es la misma estrategia que Francisco Bergoglio ha ejecutado para unir todas las confesiones "cristianas" y aún no cristianas, como lo son el Judaismo, Budismo, el Islam, y aún el Ateismo. Es decir, pongamos nuestras diferencias a un lado y unamonos en el error, en lo que él llama "El Amor".

The result of this union—and others—was the death of Christ on the Cross. They crucified "la verdad" (JUAN 14:6), or at least, that's what they thought. Here I leave you the rest of the conversation in the group, completely unpublished.

MIGUEL AND ALEX FACE OFF

[11:47 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) ???? [10:53 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová)
It's just you and me or is it that you can't just block your friend Miguel is very nosy

[10:53 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: ANTE LA VERDAD, LOS LEONES SE HACEN GATOS. El Espíritu de la Verdad es demasiado superior al de la ignorancia y del error. Ante ella cualquier leon se hace gato, y el gato, RATÓN. [10:53 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Si el debate es con Tigo es con Tigo acaso mis hermanos te están escribiendo ahorita en privado? [10:54 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: Un triunfo más para la Verdad [10:54 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): No te metas o aquí se termina el debate [10:54 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Nada de triunfo [10:56 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: Quizas en tu mente no hubo triunfo, pero es obvio que hubo un perdedor,….Tu [10:57 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: Tu me entendiste…mi teclado es la basura de Google. Recomiendame uno bueno [10:57 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Quiero a José Luis donde está por qué te manda de niñera [10:57 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: Y asi haces algo bien esta noche [10:58 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Te recuerdo el debate no es con Tigo es con José Luis [10:58 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Ok hay cuando pueda que responda jajaja cobarde [10:58 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: Quieres debatirá conmigo ahora? [10:58 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: No te basto? [10:58 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Fin del Debate [10:59 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: Ja ja ja [10:59 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: Ahora si, fin del debate… [10:59 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): No es con Tigo es con José Luis [11:00 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): José Luis y tu son charlatán [11:00 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: Yo trataria mejor. Te convendría conmigo. Aunque ya no quiero. Fue mucho para ti. [11:00 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: Es el orgullo lo que te tiene respirando [11:01 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Claro lo que digas [11:01 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Jajaja adventista [11:01 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: Pero sabemos defender la verdad. Tu ni tu errores puedes defender [11:01 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Apollan el aborto [11:01 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: ¿Eres adventista? [11:01 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Jajaja asecinos [11:01 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Tú [11:01 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: Ahora entiendo!!!! [11:01 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Guardas el sábado [11:01 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: Adventista, papa!!! [11:01 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: Tu
[11:02 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: I am not that ignorant, you are.
[11:02 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): No tú y José Luis son sabatarianos
[11:02 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: Get out of that SECT
[11:02 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Tú busca una iglesia para que la defiendas jjj [11:02 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Eres patético [11:02 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: Adventista…. [11:03 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: Y tu Adventista… [11:03 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Un ignorante que tiene miedo decir cuál es su iglesia [11:03 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: Y tu Adventista [11:03 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Dime cuál es tu secta [11:03 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Responde [11:03 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Cual es tu secta [11:03 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: [11:03PM, 9/17/2019]: Y tu Adventista [11:03PM, 9/17/2019] +52 1 241 136 2545: Dime cuál es tu secta [11:04 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: No soy Adventista…tu si [11:04 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Cual es tu cueva de donde sales con Biblia en mano [11:04 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: No soy Adventista…tu si [11:04 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Entonces cuál es tu secta [11:04 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: No soy Adventista…tu si [11:04 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Leyista sin iglesia jajaja [11:04 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: No soy Adventista…tu si [11:05 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): No sé qué haces aquí [11:05 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: No soy Adventista…tu si [11:05 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Sin iglesia [11:05 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: No soy Adventista…tu si [11:05 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Sin pastor [11:05 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: No soy Adventista…tu si [11:05 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Y peor aún sin Dios [11:05 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: No soy Adventista…tu si [11:05 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Dime cómo se llama tu secta [11:05 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: No soy Adventista…tu si [11:06 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Dime responde obedece [11:06 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: No soy Adventista…tu si [11:06 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: No soy Adventista…tu si [11:06 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Es una orden [11:06 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: No soy Adventista…tu si [11:06 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Jajaja [11:06 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: No soy Adventista…tu si [11:06 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Das pena ajena amigo [11:06 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: No soy Adventista…tu si [11:07 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Leyista sin iglesia jajaja [11:07 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: No soy Adventista…tu si [11:09 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: Por ultimo, esta es mi secta:

Revelation 14:12

Here is the patience of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

[11:09 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: BUENAS NOCHES!!!!! LA VERDAD, QUERIDOS, LA VERDAD!!!! [11:09 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Jajaja sabático elenista Witt [11:09 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: BUENAS NOCHES!!!!! LA VERDAD, QUERIDOS, LA VERDAD!!!! [11:10 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Deja de creeré judío [11:10 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: BUENAS NOCHES!!!!! LA VERDAD, QUERIDOS, LA VERDAD!!!! [11:10 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Jajaja [11:10 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: BUENAS NOCHES!!!!! LA VERDAD, QUERIDOS, LA VERDAD!!!! [11:10 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Dime de qué tribu eres [11:10 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: BUENAS NOCHES!!!!! LA VERDAD, QUERIDOS, LA VERDAD!!!! [11:10 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Igualmente [11:10 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Judío jjj?? [11:10 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: BUENAS NOCHES!!!!! LA VERDAD, QUERIDOS, LA VERDAD!!!! [11:11 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: BUENAS NOCHES!!!!! LA VERDAD, QUERIDOS, LA VERDAD!!!! [11:11 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Jajaja donde tiene su sede tu secta quién la fundó ? [11:12 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: CUANDO QUIERAS DEBATIR CONMIGO, ME AVISAS, TE HARÉ UNA SOLA PREGUNTA: [11:12 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Jajaja si claro vete a hacer sacrificio de animales [11:12 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: CUANDO QUIERAS DEBATIR CONMIGO, ME AVISAS, TE HARÉ UNA SOLA PREGUNTA: [11:13 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Si por qué no guardas el sábado jjjj [11:13 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: CUANDO QUIERAS DEBATIR CONMIGO, ME AVISAS, TE HARÉ UNA SOLA PREGUNTA: [11:14 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Vete a dormir sueña que estás besando los muros de Jerusalén?? [11:14 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: CUANDO QUIERAS DEBATIR CONMIGO, ME AVISAS, TE HARÉ UNA SOLA PREGUNTA: [11:15 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Quieres Debatir? [11:15 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: CUANDO QUIERAS DEBATIR CONMIGO, ME AVISAS, TE HARÉ UNA SOLA PREGUNTA: [11:15 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Ahora sí [11:15 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: CUANDO QUIERAS DEBATIR CONMIGO, ME AVISAS, TE HARÉ UNA SOLA PREGUNTA: [11:15 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Dime la pregunta [11:15 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: CUANDO QUIERAS DEBATIR CONMIGO, ME AVISAS, TE HARÉ UNA SOLA PREGUNTA: [11:16 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: VETE A DORMIR, PARA QUE REPONGAS. MANANA TE LA HAGO… [11:16 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Ave tu pregunta apocalíptica jjj [11:16 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Jajaja ve a buscar en Google [11:16 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Con José Mr Google [11:17 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: ¿CUANDO FUE EL HIMBRE A LA LUNA Y CUANDO COLON DESCUBRIÓ A AMERICA?

Whenever you can!!!!

[11:17 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Jajaja [11:17 PM, 9/17/2019] Miguelin H. Javier: HASTA MAÑANA!!!! [11:18 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Preguntas estúpidas [11:18 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Ave contestame está [11:18 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Jajajaja, ponte a investigar. [11:18 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Que fue primero la gallina o el huevo? [11:18 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: La pregunta es en serio. Vamos a ver qué tan ilustre eres. [11:19 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Calla cobarde no vuelvo a Debatir con Tigo jamás necesitas ayu no puedes solo [11:19 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Ah, la respuesta de lo que Hermo te preguntó no está en Google [11:19 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Está en la Biblia. [11:20 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Ya, no te doy más pistas. [11:20 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Hace raaaaaaato que yo terminé. Nadie me está ayudando. [11:21 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Mañana trae la respuesta, sino te la van a volver a preguntar. [11:21 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Ausejo, Serafín de Ausejo, 1975

Rom 6:15

So what? Can we sin, since we are no longer under the law, but under grace? Do not even think about it!

[11:21 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: And I won't answer you about the chicken and the new one because it wasn't me that you asked.

Alex (Testigo de Jehová) added +57 311 4494251

[11:23 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Contestame pues lo de la ley [11:24 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Quise decir el huevo, no nuevo. OK. [11:24 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Te saliste de la tagente [11:25 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Y pediste ayuda a tu hermano [11:25 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Otro día te explotó en otro tema. Acuérdate, "misericordia quiero, y no sacrificio". [11:25 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Y no te voy a sacrificar. [11:25 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: A mí nadie me ayudó. [11:25 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Jajaja es broma [11:25 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Estás bien paleado [11:26 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Yo terminé contigo, y te lo dije en el audio [11:26 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Sigue guardando tu ley [11:26 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Y tú sigue violansola. [11:27 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): La ley es para Israel [11:27 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Acuérdate de las preguntas de Hermo, que el se enoja mucho cuando no le contestan [11:27 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Entiende eso muchacho [11:27 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Si, si, Ok. [11:27 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Y Ami que me importa que se enoje [11:28 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Si dice ser cristiano no debe enojarse [11:30 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Ya Tito Martínez se la contesto [11:30 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: No digas eso, tú no lo has visto cuando se enoja. "Misericordia quieto"… Y no te queremos perder. [11:32 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: ¡Oh, si!!

Ah, well tell Tito to help you with your answer too.

[11:32 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Entonces es un sicópata como voz así serán todos los de tu secta satánica [11:32 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: No lo hagas enojar, que tiene una Biblia poderosa. [11:32 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Ajá tú le temes a Tito Martínez te pego una paliza [11:33 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Yea en Cerio [11:33 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Oye, eres comediante? [11:33 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Dile a Tito que te ayude. [11:33 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: "Se juntaron la necesidad y el hambre". [11:33 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): El te arrastró [11:34 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Cómo Herodes y Pilato, así se unen a favor del error. [11:34 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Ah, pues eres mentiroso, porque eso no fue lo que tú dijiste entonces. [11:35 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Entonces que [11:35 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Te recuerdo que los mentirosos no entrarán en el reino de Dios. Eso está en tu verso favorito (APC. 22:15) [11:35 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Te quedó claro [11:35 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Te has unido a un pervertido sexual. [11:35 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Tremendo eso. [11:35 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Tremendo. [11:36 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Tremendo. [11:36 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Amigo vamos a Debatir bíblicamente o con tonterías ? [11:36 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Ya terminé por hoy. [11:36 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Buenas noches. [11:37 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Otro día, pero prepárate mejor. [11:37 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Ves según tú muy Cerio [11:37 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: De daré un tema con unas semanas de anticipación [11:37 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Eso digo deja de Google [11:37 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Jajaja como digas [11:37 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: "Misericordia…" [11:38 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): Ariel peace, what happened to the debate about the holy spirit? [11:38 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Buenas noches a todos. [11:42 PM, 9/17/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová): I only ask that if you want to Debate, go to a church, don't go out with that Biblical ok [11:46 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: IRREFUTABLE TEXT OF THE NIGHT

IRREFUTABLE TEXT OF THE NIGHT

¹Thus says the Lord: Keep justice, and do justice; for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed.
²Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who embraces it; who keeps the Sabbath from profaning it, and who keeps his hand from doing all evil.
³AND THE FOREIGN Whoever follows Jehovah does not speak saying: Jehovah will completely separate me from his people. Nor let the eunuch say: Behold, I am a dry tree.
⁴For thus says the Lord: To the eunuchs who keep my Sabbaths, and choose what I will, and embrace my covenant,
⁵I will give them a place in my house and within my walls, and a name better than that of sons and daughters; I will give them a perpetual name that will never perish.
⁶And to the children of FOREIGNERS that they follow Jehovah to serve him, and that they love the name of Jehovah to be his servants; to all who keep the Sabbath from profaning it, and embrace my covenant,
₇I will take them to my holy mountain, and I will recreate them in my house of prayer; Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices will be accepted on my altar; because my house will be called a house of prayer for all peoples.
⁸Says the Lord God, who gathers together the dispersed of Israel: I will yet gather his gathered together to him. —SAIAH 56:1-8

[11:46 PM, 9/17/2019] José Luis Javier: Good evening everyone.

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[2:58 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez

[2:58 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez ☝☝ [5:18 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Te dicen que eres salvó pero si dejas de dar el Diezmo ya no eres salvó jajaja y no que no se pierde la salvación [5:32 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez así es [6:08 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez AUDIO LIBRO.

UNMASKING THE LIES OF THE MESSIANIC JUDAIZER JAVIER PALACIOS CELORIO

By Tito Martínez

Expanded and completed on September 6, 2019

INDEX

Foreword.

1- WHAT ARE THE JUDAIZERS?

2- REFUTATION OF THE LIES OF THE FALSE RABBI CELORIO.

3- CHAT BETWEEN BROTHER YONDER AND TITO MARTÍNEZ.

This little book is a refutation of all the doctrinal lies and heresies taught by an individual named Javier Palacios Celorio, founder of a Judaizing sect called “Kehila Messiánica Joy y Paz”, whose website is the following: https://gozoypaz.mx

To hear it:

www.las21tesisdetito.com/judazando_javier_palacios.mp3

To read it on the Internet:

www.las21tesisdetito.com/judaizador_javier_palacios.htm

To download it in pdf book format:

www.las21tesisdetito.com/judaizador_javier_palacios.pdf

[6:09 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Buenos días!!!! Queridos, NO SE DEBE COMER PUERCO so pena de morir bruto y perderse. [6:15 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: ESTO ES PARA EL GATO Y EL RATON:

PLEASE DON'T FORGET MY QUESTIONS...

Cat (Tom)::

WHEN DID MAN WENT TO THE MOON AND WHEN DID COLUMBUS DISCOVER AMERICA?

Mouse (Jerry):

Just click on the attached link and it will take you directly to the questions. I've been doing that since Friday, Jerry

[6:24 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) No Debato con personas sin iglesia [6:40 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja!!!! No voy a debatir, solo quiero que al.menos trates de responder mi.oreguntas, garito…Olvidate del debate y solo responde. [6:42 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Tú Responde cual es tu secta [6:43 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Otra cosa, ¿De qué parroquia eres? Me convertiré a ella si respondes pues, o te preocupa el hecho que no tenga iglesia o lo estás tomando como excusa porque, al igual que Jerry, la pregunta es más de lo que puefes responder. [6:43 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ya te dije, me convertiré a tu parroquia si respondes… [6:45 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Es lo más lejos que puedo llegar en este caso… Respondes y nos hacemos hermanos parroquiales… [6:45 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Contestame [6:47 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Yalo hice, no soy religioso. No soy estúpido. No mantengo a hombtes vagos y, ladrones y mentirosos. Mi dinero, el dinero de Dios, va a Dios, a los oobres. [6:48 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: SI TAN SOLO ENTENDIERAS QUE EL CERDO NO TE LO ESTÁS COMIENDO, TE ESTÁ COMIENDO EL CEREBRO A TI… [6:48 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Por eso no puedes entender las verdades más simpkes ni responder las preguntas más fáciles [6:56 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Y solo a mí me preguntas y a quien más los católicos no? [6:58 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Tu etes catolico, amigo… [6:59 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Te lo hemos comprado, pero te seguiré demostrando que así es [7:00 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: A TODOS, LEAN, POR FAVOR: [7:00 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: LEY81

ART24

DAB26

Saturday and Sunday

IS Sunday A BIBLICAL DAY AND NAME? The first day of the week is biblical, but Sunday is not.

WHERE DOES THE OBSERVANCE OF Sunday COME FROM?

Daniel 7:23-27

[23] He said thus: The fourth beast will be a fourth kingdom on earth, which will be different from all other kingdoms, and will devour, thresh and tear the whole earth in pieces (the fourth beast is Papal Rome today which inherits the power of the Roman empire).
[24]Y los diez cuernos significan que de aquel reino se levantarán diez reyes; y tras ellos se levantará otro, el cual será diferente de los primeros, y a tres reyes derribará (en la Edad Media el Imperio Romano estaba dividido en 10 naciones, pero cuando el papado surge destruye por completo a tres que no se quisiero… [7:06 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Lee y te darás cuenta que todo lo que defendiste anoche fue en defensa al sitema bestial que predijo Daniel (7:25). ¿Y dices que noberes católico? ¿Que religioso no es católico? Los mismos Adventistas que dicen guardar el Sábado, son más católicos que Luis Toro a quien admitio por ser el errrado que más sabe defender su error. [7:07 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: La misericordia de Dios todavía está a tu favor, pero no abuses de ella, pues es eterna solo.para los obedientes. [7:07 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Y tu entonces por qué defiendes el sábado [7:08 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Tú te crees obediente? [7:08 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Porque es un mandamiento de la Ley de Dios. Simpke!!! [7:08 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: No, pero reconozco que hay que obedecer. Tú nobreconoces eso..m [7:10 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Aunque soy más pecador que tú, estoy en ventaja sobre ti pues yo reconozcoby pero tú no. [7:17 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: POR ÚLTIMO:

I am not here to win any debate, that is irrelevant, I am here because I am interested in your salvation. However, such salvation is impossible to achieve by setting aside the Law. It is even common sense, *a citizen who keeps the laws of his country, is safe from its consequences.

Your problem is not the Law, since perhaps you do not directly worship Satan, you are not an idolater, you take God's name seriously, you are obedient to your parents, you do not commit adultery, you do not steal, you do not lie, and you do not covet. However, the Sabbath, which is the ONLY Commandment that gives meaning to the nine that I mentioned to you, that is your problem... you don't want to accept it. But it's not that you have a day of rest, you HAVE Sunday, Satan's day.

[7:19 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: SERIOUSLY TO ALL, READBESTO, PLEASE.

HAVE A GOOD DAY EVERYONE...

[7:22 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Igualmente cuídate [7:24 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez RETO A UN DEBATE EN AUDIO EN ESTE GRUPO A MIGUEL APOLOGISTA, A VER SI SE ATREVE. [7:25 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) No tiene iglesia que Defender es adventista disimulado? [7:26 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Jerry, ¿No puedes responder ms preguntas y me eetas a debatir? [7:27 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez te las respondere en el debate [7:27 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja [7:27 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez te atreves a debatir conmigo en audio sí o no? [7:27 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Miguel no tienes iglesia que representar [7:28 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Tom, ¿Crees tú que alguien que defiende la Ley como yo va a mentir en algo tan serio? Tú eres el adventista aqui, no yo. [7:28 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez bueno ya veo que usted es un gallina cobarde Miguel [7:29 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Pero tengo pteguntas que tú, teniendo inglesia, no puedes respinder… [7:30 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: As es, pero nonpuedes responder a una simpme pregunta… ESO ES PEOR. PREFIERO SER COBARDE!!!! [7:31 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Preguntas estúpidas has preguntado Bíblicas [7:31 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez Bueno pues ahí tienen todos ustedes a ese miserable gallina y cobarde que tiene miedo a debatir conmigo [7:31 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Nunca te habian hecho oregunyas más bíblicas que esas… [7:31 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Créeme!!! [7:31 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez MIEDOSO EMBUSTERO Y COBARDE [7:32 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez Qué te has hecho caca en los calzones cuando te he retado a tener el debate en audio [7:32 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez Miserable cobarde [7:32 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: O sí, mira que miedo!!!! Uuuuy!!!! Miedo! [7:32 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez Por eso no te atreves a debatir conmigo

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[7:32 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez la caca que te has hecho en los calzones huele que apesta [7:33 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: El mejor escritorio del.mundo y no puede respinder una simple ptegunta [7:33 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez Ya te dije pedazo de idiota que esa pregunta te la contestaría en el debate [7:33 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez Eres un cobarde miedoso que me tienes terror y por eso no te atreves a debatir conmigo [7:33 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Oh si, como no!!! Ja ja ja y otro ja [7:33 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez Porque sabes perfectamente que en 2 minutos te haría picadillo [7:34 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez adiós idiota cobarde [7:34 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Respinsela ahora, y te doy el gisto de barrer el piso contigo, Jerry [7:35 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Bueno, LLEVAS UNA SEMANA SINNCONTESTA…¿y en dos minutos me aniquilas?R [7:35 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez Ya te he dicho imbécil que te la contestaría en el debate solamente [7:35 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez Solo te responderé en un debate en audio [7:35 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez Pero como eres un gallina cobarde que me tienes terror entonces no hay nada que hacer [7:35 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Me dijiste: "EN UNAS HORAS… [7:36 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Y todavia sigo esperando… [7:36 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez Y ahora te digo en un debate [7:36 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez Si no hay debate en audio entonces no hay respuesta en audio [7:36 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Respinde ahora, Jerry [7:36 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez Adiós imbécil [7:36 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Faltaste a tu promrsa o te faltó conocimiento? [7:36 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez No hablo con imbéciles y subnormales como tú [7:36 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Acepta el debate señor sin iglesia [7:36 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Jerry, no me dejes solo, ja ja ja [7:37 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: No te vayas…please!!!! [7:37 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja [7:37 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez Yo no me llamo Jerry, pedazo de subnormal [7:37 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez Con subnormales no hablo, adiós [7:37 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Unndebaye? Ja ja ja… [7:37 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Te tiene miedo no cabe duda [7:38 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: No puede responder una pregunta y quoete debatir… [7:38 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez claro me tiene miedo ese perro [7:38 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Soy misericordioso…. [7:38 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Ganó Tito Martínez asta ahora nadie a podido con el [7:38 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Jabja ja [7:38 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez Adiós gallina cobarde [7:38 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja [7:39 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja [7:39 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Cual fue la pregunta que le hiciste a Tito ? [7:39 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ka [7:39 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ka [7:39 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja [7:40 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Disculpa, es que mi teléfono no sabe escribir…ja ka ja [7:40 AM, 9/18/2019] Tito Martinez El gallina cobarde de Miguel sin cerebro [7:40 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja [7:40 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: JERRY, en este grupo perder es ganar, ja ja ja [7:41 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Compren diccionarios….tienen el significado de ganar al revés. Ja ja ja….y otro ja [7:42 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Entonces cuál fue la pregunta contesta [7:42 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja [7:43 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Disculpa, es que Ustedes son ignorantes, pero eso no es quita lo chistoso…. [7:45 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Pórtate Cerio [7:50 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: PEN25

Hay algo "hermoso" en el error: aunque cada errado tenga una zona diferente en su error, cuando aparece la Verdad, el error, los une a todos.

——-777IGUEL JAVIER

Cristovetvdad.com

[7:55 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Si por eso tenés miedo Debatir en audio ??? [7:56 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Jaka ka…Tengo miedo, ja ja ka!!!! [8:01 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Disculpa, quise decir ja ja ja ja ja…me caes bien, te doy otro ja mas j [8:02 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Debate debate con Tito o con migo [8:06 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ka ja ja [8:11 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Voy a hablar con mi sobrino de cuatro años a ver si él se anima a seguirlos humillando a ustefes

+Blake removed +54 9 291 448-8425

[8:14 AM, 9/18/2019] +Blake: Mientras no haga lo mismo que maximiliano, haciendo trampas sucias [8:14 AM, 9/18/2019] +Blake: Se le expulsó, por tramposo y Doble Cara [8:15 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: PEN25

Hay algo "hermoso" en el error: aunque cada errado tenga una zona diferente en su error, cuando aparece la Verdad, el error, los une a todos.
——-777IGUEL JAVIER

http://www.cristovetvdad.com

[8:15 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) No vale la pena Debatir con usted Miguel [8:15 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Copia y pega jajaja [8:15 AM, 9/18/2019] +Blake: Otro Catolico es Utd? [8:15 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Claro que no…no vale la pena seguir perdiendo como ustedes pierden. [8:15 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Es adventista disimulado [8:16 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) El está a favor del aborto [8:16 AM, 9/18/2019] +Blake: Con razón [8:16 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: No borrego, no soy riguroso. [8:16 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Si ellos el y el señor mr Google son adventista [8:16 AM, 9/18/2019] +Blake: Pero por el Vocabulario es igual como los católicos [8:17 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Son pareja [8:17 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ah, ¿Es que ers también Adventista? Qué asco!!! [8:17 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Los adventosta adventosta son los unicos sucios que promuevenny ptactican aboryos en sus HOSPITALES… [8:18 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: SE LOS ADVIERTO, SI SIGUEN TRAYENDO ADVENTISTAS AQUI, ME VOY… [8:19 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: SI ME QUIEREN EN ESTE GRUPO, NO MÁS ADVENTISTAS. [8:20 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja!!! [8:20 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Por qué tema dialogar [8:20 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: ¿VEN COMO SE UNIERON TODOS Y SUPUESTAMENTE ETAN CATÓLICOS Y PROTESTANTES? [8:20 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Eres sabático defendes esa postura [8:21 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja [8:21 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Nonestamos dialogando? [8:21 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Vamos a dialogar tu y yo [8:21 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Y tu nunca fuiste Católico? [8:21 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Muestra tus argumentos [8:21 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Me caes bien, pero veamos cian inteligente eres [8:22 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Que raro me das miedo ?? [8:22 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Jajaja [8:22 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Pregunta, ¿El Sábado se dio a Israel o para istael? [8:23 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) No escribas te voy a responder [8:23 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Clamado [8:23 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: En la Biblia eso se llama Hayar gracia [8:23 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Nontengas miedo, ¿No estás seguro de sexualidad? [8:23 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ahora, responde mi.pregunta… [8:24 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Respuesta… [8:24 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Espero… [8:25 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: No tomes semanas como JERRY [8:25 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Quién es Jerry ? [8:25 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Tu maestro!!! [8:26 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Estas son de esas preguntas estúpidas que usan para justificar sus afirmaciones, creo que no existe una declaración directa que aclare eso, ya que eso dependería de la manera como el traductor lo plasme en español [8:27 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja [8:27 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Otro más… [8:27 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Ves no sabes hacer preguntas [8:27 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Ave ahora voy yo contesta gil [8:27 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja [8:28 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Tú no pudes contestar…. [8:28 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ka ja [8:28 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Básicamente el sábado fue el día literal de 24 horas que Jehová les dio a los israelitas para adorarlo, ya que en Egipto no tenían tiempo para la adoración [8:28 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: SABES QUÉ, NO VOY S OERDER MI TIEMPO. [8:29 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Vete a estudiar, ignorante. [8:29 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Un texto que muestre a una persona guardando el sábado antes de la ley dada a Moisés, creo que es esa [8:29 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Nonvoy a oerder mi.tiempo. [8:29 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Contestame [8:29 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: DEJA DE COMER CERDO. [8:29 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja [8:29 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Jajaja no te comería a ti [8:29 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja [8:29 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja [8:29 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) El Reyno de Dios no es comida ni bebida estúpidos argumentos pajas que usas [8:30 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Jaja ja [8:30 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: No comas, entonces… Ja ja ja [8:31 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Contestame dame un texto antes de la ley Dada a Moisés [8:31 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Que alguien guardo el sábado [8:31 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja [8:31 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Ves no hay jajaja Yupi gane?????????? [8:31 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ok [8:31 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Refutado [8:31 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Te la daré, quedaré ahí [8:32 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Ya perdiste [8:32 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Ya perdiste [8:32 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ka ja ja [8:32 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: QUEDARE AHÍ Y QPRENDE del.maestro [8:33 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Jajaja si [8:34 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Deja de buscar en Google [8:34 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Jajaja [8:37 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: S. Marcos 2:27

He also said to them: The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.

[8:37 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Adam means man, that is, because of Adam.

Adam also means humanity:

Genesis 5:2

Male and female he created them; and he blessed them, and called their name Adam, on the day they were created.

[8:37 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Psalms 148:6

]He made them to be eternally and forever; He gave them a law that will not be broken.

[8:37 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: ADÁN GUARDÓ EL SABADO!!! [8:38 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Donde lo meto no cabe jjjjj??? [8:38 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: *ERES DEMASIADO INFERIOR E INDEFENSO. *MEJOR RESPONDE LAS PREGUNTAD DE COLÓN Y LA LUNA [8:39 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Sabia que eres Homosexual… [8:39 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Sodomota… [8:39 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Mira que cristiano jjj [8:39 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: … [8:39 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Deja te refutó tu estúpido argumentos [8:40 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: SODOMOTA, YA TERMINÉ CONTOGO… [8:40 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Jajaja si donde guardo el sábado donde lo meto dime ? [8:40 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ka, SODOMITA… [8:40 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Tú dónde lo guardas el sábado de bajo de tu cama [8:41 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ka, SODOMITA… [8:42 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja, SODOMITA… Por eso rechazas la Ley, porque te gustan lis lis hombres… [8:42 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Jajaja ignorante quieres ser judío jajaja [8:42 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja, SODOMITA… Por eso rechazas la Ley, porque te gustan lis lis hombres… [8:42 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Jajaja a ti que que te gusta la circuncisión???? [8:43 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Gane ???????? [8:43 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja, SODOMITA… Por eso rechazas la Ley, porque te gustan lis lis hombres… [8:43 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja, SODOMITA… Por eso rechazas la Ley, porque te gustan lis lis hombres… [8:43 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja, SODOMITA… Por eso rechazas la Ley, porque te gustan lis lis hombres…

YOU GAINED EXPERIENCE, HA HA HA

[8:43 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) No puedes con Migo adiós me voy a trabajar de lunes a sábado por qué no soy judío no tengo erencia de tribu jjjj [8:43 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja, SODOMITA… Por eso rechazas la Ley, porque te gustan lis lis hombres…

YOU GAINED EXPERIENCE, HA HA HA

[8:44 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Parexes perico [8:44 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja, SODOMITA… Por eso rechazas la Ley, porque te gustan lis lis hombres…

YOU GAINED EXPERIENCE, HA HA HA

[8:44 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) No hay que dar perlas a los cerdotes [8:44 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja, SODOMITA… Por eso rechazas la Ley, porque te gustan lis lis hombres…

YOU GAINED EXPERIENCE, HA HA HA

[8:45 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ha ha ha, SODOMITE... That's why you reject the Law, because you like men...

YOU GAINED EXPERIENCE, HA HA HA

[8:45 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Aprende [8:45 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja, SODOMITA… Por eso rechazas la Ley, porque te gustan lis lis hombres…

YOU GAINED EXPERIENCE, HA HA HA

[8:46 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Satanás [8:46 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: LEY81

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Saturday and Sunday

IS Sunday A BIBLICAL DAY AND NAME? The first day of the week is biblical, but Sunday is not.

WHERE DOES THE OBSERVANCE OF Sunday COME FROM?

Daniel 7:23-27

[23]Dijo así: La cuarta bestia será un cuarto reino en la tierra, el cual será diferente de todos los otros reinos, y a toda la tierra devorará, trillará y despedazará (la cuarta bestia es Roma Papal hoy la cual hereda el poder del Imperio Romano). [24]Y los diez cuernos significan que de aquel reino se levantarán diez reyes; y tras ellos se levantará otro, el cual será diferente de los primeros, y a tres reyes derribará (en la Edad Media el Imperio Romano estaba dividido en 10 naciones, pero cuando el papado surge destruye por completo a tres que no se quisiero… [8:47 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja, SODOMITA… Por eso rechazas la Ley, porque te gustan lis lis hombres…

YOU GAINED EXPERIENCE, HA HA HA

[8:47 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Copia y pegas jjjj [8:47 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Que sapiensia [8:47 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Jajaja [8:47 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja, SODOMITA… Por eso rechazas la Ley, porque te gustan lis lis hombres…

YOU GAINED EXPERIENCE, HA HA HA

[8:47 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Gil [8:47 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Gili [8:47 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja, SODOMITA… Por eso rechazas la Ley, porque te gustan lis lis hombres…

YOU GAINED EXPERIENCE, HA HA HA

[8:47 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Ja ja ja, SODOMITA… Por eso rechazas la Ley, porque te gustan lis lis hombres…

YOU GAINED EXPERIENCE, HA HA HA

[8:47 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ha ha ha, SODOMITE... That's why you reject the Law, because you like men...

YOU GAINED EXPERIENCE, HA HA HA

[8:48 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Yo le diría que Jesús no se está refiriendo a Adán, si no a los israelitas, y que el argumento que el arma es falso, ya que no hay texto en muchos siglos antes de Moisés de alguien guardando el sábado por lo tanto su respuesta es incorrecta [8:48 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: Ja ja ja, SODOMITA… Por eso rechazas la Ley, porque te gustan lis lis hombres…

YOU GAINED EXPERIENCE, HA HA HA

[8:49 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: La sodomia hace daño a corto o largo plazo…. [8:50 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Refutado no pudiste demostrar que alguien guardo el sábado antes de la ley mosaica [8:50 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: La sodomis hace faño a corto o largo plazo…. [8:50 AM, 9/18/2019] Alex (Testigo de Jehová) Das vergüenza sin iglesia sin argumentos [8:50 AM, 9/18/2019] Miguel H. Javier: La sodomis hace faño a corto o largo plazo….

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SOURCES AND LINKS

[1] The Law, The Jews & You [STUDY, CristoVerdad]

[2] Jesus “vs.” Paul and the Law: What Happened on the Cross

[3] The Catechism of the Holy Council of Trent — Catholic Church Admits Change of the Sabbath [DOCUMENT, CristoVerdad]

[4] The day of the Resurrection: the New Creation [LINK, The Vatican]

[5] Jesus, “Our Rest” — Hebrews 4 and The Great Error of Evangelicals [STUDY, CristoVerdad]

[6] Catholic Church and Its Power to Change the Law —Doctrinal Catechism, Rev. Stephen Keenan, (1851), [LINK, Bible Light

[7] Great Power of the Catholic Church to Change the Sabbath, Augsburg Confession, Art. 28 [LINK, Believe][

[8] John, The Disciples and The Day of the Lord [STUDY, CristoVerdad]

[L] Legal Section, “Copyright disclaimer” on copyright and fair use [LINK, CristoVerdad]

EXTRA MATERIAL

[9] Francisco Bergoglio, La Muerte de Jesús "Acabó Un Fracaso".

[10] LA TIERRA Se Estremese, ¿Y Cristo Dónde Está? —Manipulando El Tiempo Para "Cambiar Los Tiempo y La Ley"

[11] The Mark of the Beast is Not the Microchip

[12] Saturday vs. Sunday — Royal Academy of the Spanish Language

[13] Sunday, The Lord's Day, Catechism of The Catholic Church — Worshiping the Sun God

[14] The Sabbath and Logic: The Day of the Lord and The Tree of Knowledge

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